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Put in protected bike lanes (with bollards or curbs), repair /install sidewalks, put shade at bus stops, put in crosswalks and curb bump outs, more traffic enforcement

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This could all be funded completely if we invested all of the money into a municipal endowment fund. We do not touch it for a period of time and allow the returns on that fund to finance all services of the city including enhanced social services, infrastructure improvements and comprehensive street safety programs. It could be funded 100% and forever.
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Profile of Nina
Posted by:Nina
3 years ago
@Christopher Lehmuth it's already sitting in a high yield account making money. In the meantime people, are getting injured and killed as they try to navigate the city not in a car. We need action now, not some undetermined time in the future when there is supposedly enough money in the fund.
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And what happens when the protected bike lanes are destroyed by cars and need to be repaired? Or when the paths need to be re-paved? The money will be gone. I want riders to be safe too, but there is a measured approach here that allows all citizens of Saint Louis benefit, forever. And those benefits would include this idea (which is great) and all of the other great ideas submitted here.
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@Christopher Lehmuth Paths designated for pedestrians and bikes actually last much, much longer than roads, so it isn't that big of a deal. I agree that part of the design, though, should include durability and protection from drivers' machines wrecking them.
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Nation wide only 0.6 people use biking to commute to work, is spending billions on bike lanes worth it? Would the money be better spent to improve mass transit? https://www.bicycling.com/culture/a40046037/national-bike-to-work-day-bike-commuter-stats/
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Posted by:Ben Olson
3 years ago
@Paula Kyla Oudshoorn Personally I would love to bike to work if it were safer. It seems as if there were better infrastructure for it then it is something that more would participate in. That said I'm all in on mass transit as well and would love more trains throughout the city
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@Paula Kyla Oudshoorn That's because it's currently not safe. I realize a belief doesn't constitute a statistic, yet I believe A LOT more people would bike to work, etc. if safe bike infrastructure was in place, especially when they found out how inexpensive it is compared to owning an automobile. America is about freedom of choice. I say, give people that freedom of choice to choose something other than an automobile and you would see dramatic (in a positive sense) change in your cited statistic. Don't allow yourselves to be confused by the Automobile Companies pushing fantasies over the reality of automobile ownership.
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@Ronald Wagoner st.louis is the perfect city to try to convert people into using other modes of transportation.
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@Ronald Wagoner I'm going to disagree. If the 0.6% is nationwide and nationwide we have spent billions on bike safety and accessibility@Ronald Wagoner I'm going to disagree. If the 0.6% is nationwide and nationwide we have spent billions on bike safety and accessabitly it may be time to look at the studies done of the number of bikers in STL. It is very, very low on the one or two-day@Ronald Wagoner I'm going to disagree. If the 0.6% is nationwide and nationwide we have spent billions on bike safety and accessibility@Ronald Wagoner I'm going to disagree. If the 0.6% is nationwide and nationwide we have spent billions on bike safety and accessabitly it may be time to look at the studies done of the number of bikers in STLand evaluate the financial feasiblity overall for the city $$. It is very, very low on the one or two day counts they do around the city. The truth is Americans are very attached to their cars, add to that our hot summers and cold wet winters and it makes it difficult to be a commuting biker year round. The counts they do are in Sept, best month, and the numbers are mostly still in the teens or less on most of the routes the track per day.
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@Paula Kyla Oudshoorn The only reason Americans are attached to their cars are two-fold. For years they have been hit on their heads by propaganda spread by car companies (and their dependents) and the oil companies (and their dependents). Some of the budget could be spent to provide public service notices dedicated to the positives (and there are many) of alternate forms of transportation). Additionally, we still haven't been given enough infrastructure to exercise what should be our freedom of choice of transportation. That is, infrastructure dedicated to the automobile far exceeds other choices of transportation, so people are mired in really only one choice: to buy and bear the costs of owning and operating an automobile. I think any statistics that try to convince Americans that we should ignore other options of transportation are skewed due to that lack of a real choice. As far as weather goes, I would much rather walk to a bus stop or the train to get to work rather than risk my life on dangerous roads.
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The city needs Protective bicycle lanes, Protective intersection that make it safe for bicycles & pedestrians, & traffic lights that let bicycles & pedestrians go first with all lights remaining red for cars, median and corner island that allows Wider islands support high volumes of people walking and biking, raising the person-capacity of the intersection. To serve as an accessible waiting area, the minimum width of a pedestrian island is 6’.13 The desired minimum width is 8’. If 6’ or wider, detectable warning surfaces must be placed at both sides of the island to distinguish the bikeway from the sidewalk, and the island from the bikeway.
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Yes! Especially downtown—make bike/ped friendly, reconnect river/arch/landing to the city for peds! Close off certain streets for pedestrian only, inviting restaurants to utilize for outdoor seating. Continue to foment converting downtown to a more residential neighborhood.
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Improve this idea to consider major projects for non-car infrastructure. Take a lane off Grand and Broadway (to start) to make a dedicated mass-transit/emergency lane. Instead of bike lanes, create dedicated routes for bikes/peds that shortcuts through the large bridges and railyards that cars drive around or climb over. Take some of the one way streets downtown and just turn them off so cars use these huge arterials we have invested in and shops, offices, and restaurants start to build things that are pretty for people to look at instead of trying to catch a glance from a driver. Deliveries and services could apply for support to start a fleet of small vehicles that can use the non-car areas for last mile work.
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Profile of Ben Olson
Posted by:Ben Olson
3 years ago
@Patrick Cuba 100% agree that there needs to be shortcuts for bikes/peds across major highways and railyards. It can be hard to get from one neighborhood nextdoor to another due to the need of crossing 44/64/55/i70/rail yards. Often the few overpasses/underpasses present have heavy car traffic making it incredibly unsafe for non-drivers
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@Patrick Cuba Yes! We need low-cost pedestrian upgrades and bike lanes down major roadways done quickly. The Brickline Greenway and the Tower Grove Connector are lovely, but over engineered: we need safe options today, not a decade from now. Painting bike lanes and using parking to protect cyclists and pedestrians will quickly improve safety a does not need years of engineering and environmental review. We should experiment with temporary options to see what works. For example, the barriers currently on the center lane of Grand in Dutchtown could be protecting a center bike lane instead of just eating a lane of traffic. As the city does pedestrian improvements, it should make sure that they are not hostile to cyclists. For example, the rain gardens on south grand are lovely, but they push cyclists into traffic and block the future development of protected cycling infrastructure on Grand.
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@Patrick Cuba removing traffic lights and installing roundabouts would provide some traffic calming while also increasing traffic flow.
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Profile of Malik L
Posted by:Malik L
3 years ago
I back this one hundred percent! The city should prioritize this to promote accessibility and more sustainable forms of transportation.
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